I am trying to get some advice on moving into an HR role from my crrent recruitment background.
In summary I spent 8 years as a business manager for a large company operating individual business units and getting involved in initiative at the head office. This function covered everything from profit and loss, sales and marketing, purchasing, and a large part was performing HR functions, across recruitment (both for business unit and national assessment centres), training and development (developing training materials and the hands on training), appraisals, disciplinaries, performance management, health and safety, employment law, productivity, employment forecasting, developing commission and bonus plans and a 4 month stint working at the head office analysing job codes a pay matrices. So it was not a core HR position, but perhaps 50% of my time was spent on these tasks.
I moved locations and companies and have spent the last 8 month in a recruitment consultant function. Although I hear traditionally, these roles are very sales focussed and targetted around cold calling for new business - this is not what my role entails - my role involves looking after a couple of key accounts -so my role is predominantly focussed on finding candidates for my global clients at their request as a preferred supplier and dealing with the interviewing, shortlisting, getting them through the interview process and then the whole onboarding process when successful. To some degree we assist the client with their workforce planning.
I am thinking about getting into a more core HR function, and was wondering whether my background would be of benefit or not? My main reason for asking is that I am thinking about undertaking my diploma certificate in HR before I actively start looking for positions - but as this is quite pricey I wouldnt like to spend out all that money if it would not assist me de to me not being from the right background.
Any advice would be great
I thought it was a shame no-one has replied to you, so here is my pennies' worth on what I would do if I was in your situation.
In terms of work experience, you have a lot of experience as a business manager and you need to sell that to a potential employer as being a "business partner" - understanding the operational and strategic side of HR. Not working in HR is not necessarily a disadvantage, but it is difficult to jump from operational to HR and its a case of persisting with your search for employment who will give you a chance in a HR department. It may be worth searching for HR Officer roles or an Internal Recruitment Officer/Manager, which is based in the HR department, and that would then get you a foot in the door (expect a drop in salary though from being a Recruitment Consultant, HR Officer level is only between £20K-27K depending on your location).
As for studying, I'm two thirds of my way through my CIPD. It certainly opens more doors for you by having this "qualification" (if you look companies recruiting for HR positions, the criteria is usually CIPD qualified or part-qualified). I have my personal opinions on the course - its cost, university lecturers who haven't worked since 1970 and the very academic way of working - which if you are not used it, it is very difficult. I find the whole part-time university experience a bit of a waste of my time (apart from meeting new people). I personally learn more from my own reading, research and being a "thinking performer" by networking - i.e.in a forum like this or within the HR department. The total cost of the Professional Development Scheme (PDS) course is around £4000 at a university and more if you go through a private company like MOL or BPP. It might be worth trying to find a HR role first and a Company may be willing to sponser you. My previous manager had worked a Store Manager role for 10 years and then HR for only 3 years - he hadn't got the qualification and had no intention of getting it either, he was quite happy at HR Manager level on £35K a year and his operational knowledge was amazing, I learnt so much from him - that's where I think you could sell yourself.
The key is to attain as much HR experience as possible. Luckily my experience was gained through a placement year (being a general HR assistant) and then working my way up to officer, advisor and now manager. I'm only 26 and have worked very hard to gain as much experience in every aspect of HR (including recruitment, performance management, Employee relations - lots of it, succession planning, redundancy, tribunals, the list is endless). This has meant working ridiculus hours and being involved in something that I'd rather not be involved in - but it has paid off.
My recommendations would be to search for a Recruitment Manager or Officer for a Company rather than an agency; maybe try for HR Officer / Advisor role but don't be disappointed if you get turned down because of lack of HR experience. Definitley do some research on academic literature of HR Management, strategy (look up Ulrich, Purcell and Guest) - maybe buy a decent HR Management book. This will just give you the edge when challenged by company's (or agencies) on your knowledge of HR.
I hope this helpful and I haven't gone on too much
Best of luck, Lynsey
I have joined this grioup as I was planning to do CPP starting this Oct from DPG. I have 5 years of HR generalist experience back in India and came to UK with my husband in January 2010. I am trying to find a HR role since then but all in vain beacuse I do not posses UK experience or UK degree. I also have SAP HR end user experience and though could do SAP HR as CIPD is costly and also time taking. Please suggest me will CPP atlease help me in getting a job in Uk even at Junior levels?? Is DPG a good institute? I have no UK exp, so will it adhere to my succesful completion of the course? Should I move into SAP HR and with domain exp will I get opportunities in there??
I am totally confused and is depressed as I had a good career in India and I am not considered in UK even for Fresher or start up roles in HR/Recruitment or even Administration.
Thanks and Regards
did you find a job then? I have similar background and thinking of doing a SAP HR course from London but unsure if that will land me a job? Any suggestions?
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