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HR strategyPeople analyticsTalent management

HR working with finance: three steps to success

by Michael Carty 18 Nov 2015
by Michael Carty 18 Nov 2015 Morten Kamp Anderson, speaking at CIPD 2015, advised HR teams to take small steps when working with finance.
Morten Kamp Anderson, speaking at CIPD 2015, advised HR teams to take small steps when working with finance.

HR and finance working together can bring major benefits to both functions and the organisation as a whole. But how can they engineer a better working relationship? Michael Carty reports from the 2015 CIPD annual conference in Manchester.

Resourcing and people issues are at the top of the corporate agenda for 2016, according to Morten Kamp Andersen, consultant at Proacteur. He told CIPD conference delegates earlier this month that “for the CEO and the CFO, getting the right people in is at the top of their minds”.

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These issues represents both an opportunity and a challenge for HR. “It’s actually an HR thing,” said Andersen. “But finance thinks HR doesn’t have the processes and mindset to deliver on this.”

Xavier Heiss, vice president of finance at Xerox, took up the theme of the long-standing distrust between the two departments.

“Finance and HR? We all love each other,” he joked. “We get on so well that we work in separate offices.”

Heiss and HR director Louise Fisher explained how HR and finance learnt to work together at Xerox, achieving benefits for both departments and for the wider organisation.

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Data drives the collaboration, she explained. As the demand for talent intensifies in the tech sector, people data is now critical to Xerox’s ongoing success.

“HR is not lacking data,” she said. “What we lack is the intelligence to understand and act on data.”

HR and finance have shared objectives, but each can bring a unique perspective. To kick off their collaboration, Heiss and Fisher decided to meet every day to discuss their departments’ work and identify common challenges.

Three steps to a successful collaboration

They described three key steps taken by Xerox in tackling HR’s credibility gap with finance and driving a successful collaboration:

  1. Identify the key data needed to achieve business objectives.
    “Before you start with any HR data activity, you have to identify the business challenges facing the organisation,” said Fisher. Xerox looked at the people data with the greatest potential use in tackling these challenges, and how best to extract it from their systems. A two-year data cleaning exercise was required to amalgamate relevant HR and finance data. “A patient, methodical approach is what I would advise,” said Fisher.
  2. Share HR and finance resources.
    A finance analyst was recruited into HR, to take ownership of human capital data and become the “one source of truth” for both HR and finance. HR was also given access to the finance department’s systems, and vice versa.
  3. Report regularly on key people metrics.
    HR must learn to “speak with data,” said Heiss. But it must also avoid using jargon in its data reporting. At Xerox, HR and finance launched regular internal reports on a range of critical people metrics. A quick win was achieved by agreeing a consistent headcount measure to be used across all departments, which now informs monthly labour turnover reports. Other key people metrics for Xerox include: HR function costs per employee per year; labour costs; employee satisfaction survey results; and diversity and inclusion data.

HR and finance working together at Xerox has brought significant benefits.Through sharing people data and the skill sets required to derive actionable insights from it, Xerox has been able to build predictive models for identifying the employees at greatest risk of leaving.

Harnessing these predictive analytics has helped cut labour turnover at the organisation by 20%. And there are now datasets on average labour costs by role and country, enabling it to target future talent investments on the areas generating most revenue.

Stronger connections between HR and finance

The issue of HR working with finance is also front of mind for the CIPD. Chief executive Peter Cheese argued that organisations need to “build stronger connections between the HR and finance functions.”

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Collaboration between HR and finance can bring real benefits to the organisation, to the economy and to society, he explained: “We know that people are critical to business success. Many of the recent crises affecting business can be traced back to failures of culture that could have been picked up if longer-term people-related metrics had been given more weight instead of a myopic focus on short-term financial results.”

The prospect of HR working with finance is outside of HR’s comfort zone, says Heiss. But it should not be nervous about making the first move. “Don’t be shy. Go in to see the CFO. They will be pleased to see you.”

Michael Carty

I'm the editor of XpertHR benchmarking. I'm interested in all aspects of HR data - how it's collated, how it's utilised and interpreted and the stories it tells. I'm also interested in the latest information and data on all aspects of the work of HR and related disciplines (whether to do with employment or economics) around the world – and how social media enable HR information and debate to spread and evolve across geographic boundaries. I’ve been part of the XpertHR team since 20 August 2001, working on the site in a wide variety of editorial roles as it expanded from its unnamed, pre-launch incarnation to the HR information powerhouse it is today. Further back, I worked as a writer at Incomes Data Services (IDS), and before that did time in research and writing roles at a banking consultancy in the City of London and at the Open University Business School.

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